(Continuation from yesterday)

SD:"Well, how do you live your life?"

Ebata:"I am just running about to finish the job before me. I don't have any special "future dream".

SD:"Purposes of life are not indispensable, are they?"

Ebata:"Unnecessary is O.K. Such purposes are going to make you suffer"

SD:"I think you are doing many works actively at the same time."

Ebata:"I just involve a lot"

SD:"Why do you want to do such difficulties so much?"

Ebata:"Certainly, "burden" gives me keen pains, however, "off hour" is also painful.

SD:"..."

Ebata:"Of course, it differs greatly in individuals. So we have to control "off hour" by ourselves."

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SD:"I don't want to do much. If I do something, I have to be involved by others. If I am involved by others, I may be hurt by the others.

Ebata:"It might be good. However, I think there are a pile of way of "living alone"."

SD:"Really?"

Ebata:"I think that my life is an example."

SD:"REALLY?"

Ebata:"For me, both a company and a neighborhood association are just "systems", and the persons who involve the system, are just "system elements. In addition, this is the most important point..."

SD:"?"

Ebata:"I have never thought that I can control the "systems" and "elements" and I want to control them."

SD:"Uh-huh"

Ebata:"I can tell you that it is "you" I have contacted sincerely and seriously."

SD:"..."

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Ebata:"However, sometimes, the "systems" and "elements" becomes my obstacles against resolving my problems. In that case..."

SD:"In that case?"

江端：" "Run away from it" or "destroy it" ".